The following are representative e-mails in FAVOR
of WTP's questions regarding U.S./Israeli policy.

Sender identifying information has been redacted.
Letters appear as they were submitted.


-----Original Message-----
From: Henry Goltz [mailto:texas.freeman@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 2:44 PM
To: info@givemeliberty.org
Subject: U.S., Israel and AIPAC: “No, Thank You”; Palestine: “Yes, Thank You”

Dear Bob,

 It is amazing to me how much narrow-mindedness and prejudice we have in the "truth and honesty" movement.  It is a testament to the powerful effect that the government, the schools, and the media have had on the American people.  Based on the comments expressed in the e-mails you posted, it is apparent that many have lost any desire to think, to discern and to analyze.  One is led to ask: "Are they ready for self-government?"  Can they handle freedom?  Or, must they continue to be ruled by the use of propaganda?

 Thank you for your noble efforts to shed light on a most serious and sensitive topic.  It is a shame that people who profess to want to exercise and enjoy First Amendment Rights have no desire to extend that freedom to others. 

 "If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home. Leave us in peace. We seek not your counsel or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains set upon you lightly and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."   Sam Adams

Hank Goltz

PS: No need to redact my name or e-mail address.

Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 5:08 PM
To: info@givemeliberty.org
Subject: great article

This latest article is a wonderfully done piece.

 The questions are appropriate and thought provoking.

 Unfortunately I can already hear the "Yes, but....." already being verbalized by so many of the uninformed.  Minds are so cluttered with lies and are so closed.  How dare anyone suggest that they open up their eyes and see other sides of issues.

 Thank you for what you have done here.  I think that you should put out a call for those that that are inclined to and are on the same page with you  to set aside a time each day to earnestly pray for the outcome that Christ would want and as you alluded to, taught.

 I will be praying and thanking God every day for a positive outcome for our Constitution and country. I hope others can also for I believe in the power of combined prayer.

 Thank you!!!!



Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 5:23 PM
To: info@givemeliberty.org;

Subject: US, Israel and AIPAC

I like the idea that you are pursuing the course of questionable involvement regarding the free ride Israel is receiving from the US without a national vote. American politicians are all in the pocket of the Israeli lobby groups. It is unconstitutional and you have raised many questions. The problem is that you are inferring your own argument about palestinian demise while there are more legitimate unconstitutional reasons that have nothing to do with the Palestinians.

 I am not a supporter of Israel and I do believe there are many legal reasons we should not support Israel. National Security is just one small reason. Corruption of the constitutional process is the real reason I am writing. Sheer ignorance on behalf of bible thumpers in the US is another reason we should pursue the unconstitutional support of Israel. I read nothing about bible thumping support in your arguments. Yes the Palesinians are receiving a bum deal, yet there is very little monetary support for palestinians coming from other middle east countries who are oil rich. The ignorance in the US for support of Israel is paralleled with the ignorance for Palestinian support in the Middle East. The palestinians are just an excuse for mid-east aggression towards the west.

 Pursuing criminal fundamentalist actions on behalf of the US is the path we should pursue to prove Israel is wrong in its aggressive stance against the Palestinians and the mid-east. Corruption of the constitutional process on behalf of the Senate, Congress, and lobby groups for their unanimous support of weapons trade, fraudulent banking practices and unconstitutional business practices should be the real reason you need to bring this whole scam to light.



Sent:         Saturday, April 07, 2007 9:26 PM

To:            info@givemeliberty.org

Subject:     RE: U.S., Israel and AIPAC


Thanks ever so much for your inspiring essay on Biblical “His-story”, constitutional rights, and how these relate to U.S. foreign policy.  I thoroughly applaud your “opening up this can of worms.”  I’ve forwarded your email about this to a number of my friends, including people on both the far left and far right.  I think it is vitally important for people on the “left” to understand that Constitutionalists are standing up for everyone’s rights (not just their own), and that people on the “right” understand that killing, maiming, and denying people’s rights is in no way, shape or form a Christian value.  Hopefully, your essay will make people on both sides of the fence “see the light” for perhaps the first time! 



From: Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 9:38 PM
To: bob@givemeliberty.org
Subject: Documentary on US Foreign Policy

Documentary on US Foreign Policy  

The narrator speaks Dutch for the first minute and a half, but most of the film's content is derived from English interviews. The fifty one minute documentary was a program from the Dutch VPRO ("Liberal Protestant Radio Broadcasting Company"). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VPRO 

This Dutch documentary was created as a result of the controversy created by Mearsheimer and Walt http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3497308896275775092&hl=en 

Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 11:50 PM
To: bob@givemeliberty.org
Subject: I Agree With You

Hi, Bob!

I recently found the WTP website and signed onto the email list.  I found out about GML 2007 a little too late to attend, but hopefully, I'll be able to help out in other areas as they come up.

I just read your email regarding U.S. support of Israel, along with the comments you received from those who do not agree with you.

I want to tell you directly ~ YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!!!!

Don't let those who are ignorant sway you away from walking the path of a true human being.

It astounds me how people are so righteous about causing pain to others yet consider themselves good "Christians", "Jews", whatever.  I seriously doubt that any person who currently disagrees with you would still disagree with you if they were living in Palestine at the time of the overthrow and they were the ones being massacred & ousted from their homes, just as I doubt that they would disagree with you if they were directly subject to the treatment that Israel currently gives to

What is at the root of all this is that fact that the U.S. media is not telling the American public the truth about what is going on in Israel and how it treats its own non-Jewish citizenry and neighbors (like invading Lebanon an average of every 6 years ~ think of it ~ we give $$ to Israel, they use it to blast Lebanon, we send $$ to Lebanon to rebuild, then Israel does it again!  I don't consider Israel a very good ally if they needlessly & carelessly waste my $$ that way ~ it's as if they consider the U.S. taxpayer a mule to just work & work & work, so they can take our $$ and destroy what we just built 'cause we're stupid enough to give them more $$ so they can do it all over again); nor the true history of Palestine and how Israel came to be (like David Ben Gurion boasting he was the "father of terrorism" back when Zionists were publicly displaying mutilated British bodies).  I could go on forever with this stuff.

What's even more ironic is that when ignorant people are faced with the facts ~ they don't want to hear it ~ it's as if their minds can't tolerate the truth ~ it doesn't fit into the paradigm they've been brainwashed with by Jewish run media in this country, so they put up a blank wall and call the messenger of truth a liar, confused, misinformed, or worse ~  "anti-semitic"!!!! (oh, no!) …. 

Below is a message that an acquaintance delivered to Congressman Ron Paul for me when he was speaking in Scottsdale, AZ.  Considering the fact that the treatment described is also done to American Jews, I dare say, I doubt any of your critics would agree to it being done to them ~ even if performed by "God's chosen people".  I sent a copy of it to (redacted), I think he went to GML 2007.  I don't know if he shared it with anyone there.

Keep up the good work, Bob.  I totally agree with you ~ my $$ should not be used to do bad things to people ~ no matter who is doing the doing.

Walk in Beauty ~


Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 12:45 AM
To: Bob Schulz
Subject: GML2007

Bob, I feel the sessions regarding the Israel Lobby and the whole treatment of the Middle East Issue was very well done and addressed fairly;  To me it was a highlight of the conference (along with Ed Griffith's talk).  I sincerely believe you uncovered a real breakthrough to not only peace in that region, but moreover, the solution to the war on terror;  I also think your  latest update was particularly well done, addressing this issue squarely; It take an enormous amount of courage to stand up to the kind of emails you received.   Thanks for all you do, and thanks for a great conference.  We'll keep in touch.  


Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 12:12 AM
To: bob@givemeliberty.org
Subject: Regarding the Holy Sciptures/How Well Informed Are We?

It's almost unbelievable that the people who quote the scriptures in defense of a runaway Israel government intent on genocide of the Palestinians are so ill informed.  It's also easy to understand -- in light of the fact that the mainstream media has blacked out any and all reports of the inhuman treatment of the Palestinians.

 In reading your list of questions in defense of your stand on the Israel/U.S. Government/Palestinian issue, how about these questions:

 Isn't it true that, in order to be considered a Semite, one has to be a descendant of Shem, a son of Noah?

Isn't it true that, according to Jewish historians, only about two percent of the people who call themselves Jews today are descentants of the original tribes of Israel?

Isn't it true that only descendants of Shem are considered to be Semites?

Isn't it true that, unless one is a descendant of Shem (a Semite), the term "anti-Semitic" does not apply to them?

Isn't it true that only Jews who are descendants of the original tribes of Israel are true Israelis?

Isn't it true that, according to Jewish historians, 98% of the people who call themselves Jews today are actually Kazarian Jews, descendants from the Turkish country of Kazaria?

Isn't it true that, according to Jewish historians, Kazarian Jews adopted Judaism sometime around 900 A.D. and are not descendants of the original tribes of Israel?

Isn't it true that the Bible refers only to the original tribes of Israel -- not Kazarian Jews?

Isn't it true that Kazarian Jews, who are not from the original tribes of Israel, are not referenced in the Bible and are not covered by the Word of God in the Bible?

Isn't it true that, according to Jewish historians, increasing numbers of Jews are not in agreement with the stance of the present day government in Israel?

 People who insist that God is involved in, and approves of, the illegal establishment of a State of Israel, which was formed by lands stolen from their legal inhabitants are sadly misinformed.   

Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 2:00 AM
To: Bob Schulz
Subject: the Israeli-us income tax connection is new to me, thank you.


 I figured there would be fallout stepping into the bees nest that is the middle east.  But if there ever was a man with courage and conviction I believe the Holy Spirit has and is guiding your decisions and I want to say thank you and be encouraged for as I follow your life’s work over the years through thick and thin knowing full well you are no stranger to controversy, I feel compelled to send words of encouragement and grace.  I enjoy your ability to express in publication clear thought fair analysis and loving concern  it is truly a work of art and a wonderful experience reading.  I consider you a chief example of how to get the point across without being divisive conniving or derisive.  It is truly amazing to watch you work.

 Be encouraged get some rest and know that at least I thank God for you daily in prayer and consideration.   cp

 Like everyone else there are good Jews and bad Jews.  Evil knows no distinction. 


Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 3:44 AM
To: Robert Schulz
Subject: U.S support of Israel

Dear Mr Schulz,

I read your email/newsletter tonight with much interest.

I am neither Christian nor Jew.  I want you to know that I  FULLY SUPPORT your efforts to create dialogue about America's unwavering support of Israel.  I applaud your bravery! 

I have long believed that our government treats Israel as if it were the 51st state of the Union!  All of the problems we face vis-a-vis, terrorism, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, etc, are because of our foreign policy over the last sixty years.  This includes our governments unwavering support and advocacy of the sovereign nation of Israel.

Enough is enough.  It is time to start talking about that relationship and to expose the amounts of American tax dollars that are wasted with our involvement in the Middle East.  I thank you for bravely broaching the subject.




Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 4:31 AM
To: bob@givemeliberty.org
Subject: Good Video...Detailing Media Coverage Of Israel/Palestine Situation!

Bob, you are a brave man! This video was very moving to me, showing the lopsided coverage of the conflict.

Peace, Propaganda and the Promised Land: Media & the Israel-Palestine Conflict - Google Video




Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 7:42 AM
To: info@givemeliberty.org; bob@givemeliberty.org
Subject: U.S., Israel, & AIPAC

I must commend your article on the U.S., Israel & AIPAC.  I am so grateful that someone has finally went against the mainstream belief that Israel is some "Christian" nation on the verge of fulfilling some prophetic task. (although where that is in the bible I certainly can't find). 

It certainly took a tremendous amount of courage to write that article and I hope that continues! If true Americans are "Christians" than it certainly would be beneficial to search for answers to those basic questions you propose in the article.  It would be a tremendous first step on the road of truism!  REAL TRUTH! I fear that won't happen though, we are too comfortable with our paradigms and traditions and way too content in our own form of godliness! 

I am sure you will receive many negative letters, and will lose some support, however I look at it like weeding out the tares!  Please don't apologize for printing solid facts and asking some legitimate thought provoking questions. The article was not racist in anyway, and in deed recognizes we are all spiritual Israel as taught in the Bible!  Keep up the good work, you have my support! 


Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 9:45 AM
To: info@givemeliberty.org
Subject: israel and the palestinians

As a member of this organization, I believe that our american tax dollars should not be supporting Israel or the palestinians. I used to believe like many others that emailed you that our total devotion to Israel was unconditional. I no longer hold this view due to Israel’s turning from God’s word and we are not supposed to support unconditionally government aipac corruption, neither Israel nor the palestinians. When a people stray from Gods commandments we are not obligated to be unconditionally loyal. American government likes to straddle the fence when it comes to playing both sides with american taxpayers money. I hope others will eventually educate themselves on this very important subject. I really enjoyed reading your piece. I am not pro Israel nor pro palestine. We are to love each other and let the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob take care of the rest. He doesn't need our assistance, He is powerful enough to do as He sees fit. Thank you.




Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 11:08 AM
To: Bob Schulz
Subject: Your April 7 AIPAC post...

...is the best thing I've ever seen on your site.  Well done.



Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 11:28 AM
To: info@givemeliberty.org
Subject: I Pray for your Protection

I have been receiving e-mails from you for a very long time.  I attended the showing of "America, Freedom to Facisism" here in the Kansas City area.  And very much enjoyed meeting you.

 I sent $159.00 to the 2007 conference so that I could receive the CD and DVD.  Am also supporting Attorney Cryer in his efforts.

 However, when I read that you were attempting to have a real discussion about Israel, I worried then about the back lash.  I will support you now more than ever but I must tell you I am worried.

The Zionists, especially the Christian Zionists are more dedicated to Israel than to the Constitution of the United States.  Isn't a past President of the United States more knowledgable than even us in the lay public?

 I haven't read President Carter's book as yet but I had my son get me a copy.

 May God Bless You as He is on your side.

Please Be Careful. 


Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 3:09 PM
To: bob@givemeliberty.org
Subject: You're Right On


Your are right on to judge the acts and comments of our ruling elite against the Constitution....including foreign policy.

Anyone that has problems with that are un-American by definition.

I am somewhat a student of human nature, and it is undeniable (in my opinion) that hypocrisy is a much a part of religion as is "The Bible".

You are right in your last newsletter, that people pick out of any document, source, or doctrine, what suits their belief system and ignore the parts that make them uncomfortable, or demand action on their part, or accountability of their actions or comments.  (In my opinion) there isn't a lot positive that can be said about human nature.  We are largely selfish, inconsistent, hypocritical, unobjective, lazy, and lacking in common sense.  We are largely guided by herd mentality, and VERY reluctant to have opinions or actions that are inconsistent with the majority.  No wonder the politicians treat us like sheep.  We act like sheep and think like sheep.  When "they" can get us to believe the official stories of incidents such as 9-11, Waco, and the JFK assassination, what other conclusion could you come to?

You are right on the mark with EVERYTHING you have said and done.




Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 5:04 PM
To: bob@givemeliberty.org
Subject: Zionism must GO AWAY

God Bless you man.  Our support for this Israeli fascism must stop.  In fact, Zionists are a reaction to thousands of years of persecution.  That does no justify their insanity - but it does explain it.  Zionism has been used by Britian and France to cause upheaval in the middle east since WW I when Lawrence of Arabia found out that the letter of promise to the Iraqi bedoins was worthless - they were to get their own nation for helping Britian in WW I.  It turns out that BP had discovered oil in Iran two weeks prior to the beginning of the peace talks in Versailles, France, and the oil interests convinced Britain to sabotage independence in the middle east.  The Zionists were brought in as a disaffected, lunatic fringe group to keep everything stirred up and miserable - so without "owning " it they could control the oil thru divide and conquer strategy.  WE, the US are the latest suckers to that plan.

            One Love [signed] 

Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 9:09 AM
To: info@givemeliberty.org
Subject: Inquiry


I thought you had some thought-provoking questions in your last e-mail.

Can you tell me your specific religious and denominational affiliation?

To truly discern the direction of an organization, it is necessary to know the direction of the leadership.

All the best,